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Gyo no Gyo (Ro)

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2025-11-02
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Temae Reference
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Okuden

Parent: Gyo no Gyo

Furo vs Ro

Differences between this and the furo version will be bolded. If there’s a difference between the two that isn’t bolded, it’s probably unintentional

Special characteristics for Ro

  • Imai is half-way between daisu corner and sotozumi (projected onto the heri).
    • Dougu will go past the kinindatami heri. This actually gives you a ton of space.
    • NOTE: Apparently this has been simplified, and all imai for all Okuden point to the daisu corner projected onto the heri.
  • You sit completely outside the ro for haiken.
    • Moving is also tricky going back and forth from that position and imai. See Karamono no ichi for movement tricks.

Comparison to Furo

  • Chaire goes to center, not to R when bringing down from daisu.
  • Instead of mizusashi moving back, shakutate moves laterally to center of jiita.

Temae

Setup

  • Chaire is in the shifuku on the center of the Hakkebon.
  • Hakke-bon is on the center of the ten-ita, with the fire trigram facing forward.
  • The ji-ita is arranged as normal for ro daisu.
    • 18 mei from the heri.
    • General advice is for each group (shakutate + kensui, mizusashi) to be centered in their respective half.
    • Aesthetics matter though. Shift as needed to avoid awkward balance.

Nakadachi

  • Teishu enters the room with the chawan / dai (and everything inside), and sits directly at daisu shomen, placing the chawan / dai down to center.
  • Teishu rearranges the dougu onto the hakkebon, in this order:
    • Chaire goes to thunder (3:00), moving with 2h.
    • Chashaku goes to wind (4:30), moving with 3h.
    • Chakin is wet, so it goes to fire (6:00).
      • Chasen goes karioki to the right of the chawan to do this.
      • No special care is needed to exit from the front; the chakin may exit from the back.
    • Chasen goes on top of chakin, a la sen-zara.
    • Chawan / dai move to swamp / lake (9:00).
      • Hold the dai from 9:00 and 6:00 to make sure you clear the side of the chasen.
  • From this position, move the shakutate laterally to center.
    • Both hands down at beginning and end. It contains hibashi, after all.
    • Only move shakutate with 1h (R).
  • Shittai from the knee line and exit (backing out).
    • Stand with L, take a small initial step with L, then cross the heri with R.
    • Immediately turn with L toward the Mawari-sado, bring R up to the line, then cross with L.
      • For Shomen-guchi, the footwork is identical, except you turn wholly around (still in 4 steps).
      • Remember that if you’re holding a kensui, you’ll need to 1) turn toward the wall, and 2) leave space in front of you to sit for opening the door.

Entrance

  • Open the door in shin, close the door behind you, and sit low from temaeza.
    • Because everything is already at temaeza, you come in with nothing. No aisatsu or sorei.
  • Shikko 3x up to the knee line.
  • Following the mnemonic of “ue, shita, ue ue shita,” arrange temaeza.
    • Ue — Pull the hakke-bon forward one scoot on the ten-ita. It’s “far away”, so hold from 7:30 and 4:30.
      • Foot of the bon should be giri-giri against the edge of the ten-ita, meaning the lip overhangs.
    • Shita — Remove the hibashi as usual for daisu hirademae from 3’, both together, avoiding around L side of kensui.
    • Ue — Take down the chaire, and place it to daisu shomen center.
    • Ue — Take down the dai, and place it himado-mae.
    • Shita — Place the kensui out immediately to its final position.
      • 2h to take the kensui from the jiita, then 1h (L) to place down to knee line.
  • Take hoya-san and place onto L palm. Turn to imai, place to its home by corner of robuchi, and sorei.

Kiyome

Note: From here onward, things are mostly as one would expect if you mixed daitenmoku with karamono. Some rules, such as “the tenmoku-chawan must always be alone,” or, “the chaire must always be alone” no longer apply, because both the chawan and the chaire are equally-ranked.

  • Bring the chawan+dai and chaire to temae without turning from imai.
    • Chawan is far, chaire is near, like in hira-demae.
    • L → R rules about making contact with the dai still apply.
    • 2H rules about taking the chaire still apply.
  • Remove the shifuku from the chaire as usual for karamono, and place on the left corner of the ten-ita.
    • The daisu ten-ita is divided into eight parts: in, yo, in, yo, in, yo, in, yo.
    • The shifuku is an in object, so it must be placed into a yo slot.
      • This includes the cord as well; you should gently adjust the cords so they don’t lay about across multiple slots.
      • Also, when placing the shifuku, it must go directly into the slot. No crossing lines diagonally to get to the slot.
  • Shin-sabaki and wipe the chaire as in Karamono temae, returning to its position center of daisu shomen.
  • Sou-sabaki and wipe the chashaku (1h pickup from hakkebon top/bottom).
    • 3x wipe as usual, then fuki-modoshi.
    • Holding the chashaku nigiriconde, take the fukusa from the bottom and sou-sabaki. Wipe one last time, then lean the chashaku on the chaire.
  • Place the fukusa as-is on the floor, karioki by the right knee, then open the hoya-san from its place already on tatami.
  • Open the kama lid, placing the fukusa back to karioki by the right knee.
  • Warm the chawan, purify the dai, and do chasentoshi as usual for Daitenmoku temae. Chawan goes to ji-ita when warming.
    • Turn to daisu shomen, take hishaku as usual for daisu hira-demae, then turn back to imai.
    • Draw a half-scoop of oyu, returning hishaku onto kama.
    • Kosusugi, empty, and catch the drip with your ring finger. Return the chawan to the dai.
    • Add another half-scoop of oyu.
    • Before doing anything else, turn back to daisu shomen and return hishaku to shakutate.
    • Turn back to imai, fully close kama lid with fukusa, close hoyasan, then continue.
    • Take the chasen from the ten-ita and place it into the chawan. Move the chawan temporarily to the ji-ita at himado-mae where the kensui was originally.
    • Shin-sabaki, taking the fukusa from the bottom to fix the orientation. Wipe the dai as usual for Daitenmoku, then refold into (right-side up) sou-sabaki and return the fukusa to below the kensui.
    • Take the chawan and chasentoshi in your palm, 3x age.
    • Place the chasen to the right of the ro on completion, ie the same position as in Shikaden ro.
      • When clean, chasen goes to right of ro.
      • When dirty, chasen goes to kensui no migi-kata.
    • Empty the bowl, and catch the drip / wipe as usual with the chakin, placing the bowl back onto the dai.
  • Tatami-kae, then return chakin to its place on the hakke-bon on the ten-ita.

Making tea

  • Take the chashaku from the chaire, and place it on the right side of the hane.
    • [?] TODO Taking the chashaku here, do you rehold and pinch from sides to place on hane? ➕ 2025-10-30
  • Momide, then take the chaire and place the lid on the front of the hane.
    • If it is a heishibuta, then it should be flipped.
    • This is always a tight squeeze 🙁
  • Sukuidashi, then return the chashaku to the hane.
  • Close the lid and return the chaire to its home. Zig-zag and tap as usual for tenmoku-chawan. No wiping yet!
  • Return the chashaku to the chaire.
  • Open the kama back up.
    • Open hoya-san.
    • Open kama no futa with your fukusa.
    • As is, turn with fukusa on your L palm to daisu-shomen. Once you get there, place fukusa exactly to the right of the kensui, above the knee line.
    • Take hishaku, turn back to imai.
  • Make tea as usual. Hishaku stays in the kama now.
  • Turn with the dai as usual (holding by the hane), and place out to kantsuki. Shittai, hikai.

Drinking tea

  • Ask about fukukagen after the first sip as usual.
  • Turn back to imai, close shop, then return to kyakutsuki for questions.
    • Scoot forward after the acknowledgement, then turn back to imai.
    • Take hishaku, turn to daisu shomen, and return hishaku to shakutate.
    • Close lid (no fukusa, as usual), then close hoyasan.
    • Turn with hoyasan back to daisu shomen, then place on its home on the jiita.
      • [?] TODO Is the hoyasan placed on the kensui position, or on the front position like it would if it was in furo? ➕ 2025-11-02
      • Personally, I think kensui position makes sense. The “active” position is already fulfilled by its position on the tatami. So if we are moving it, it makes sense to move it back to the kensui position.
      • glenn and I have discussed this, and we weren’t sure.
    • Turn back to kyakutsuki, no longer in Hikae.
  • Answer questions.
    • “O-chamei wa, o-tsume wa” are as usual.
    • For sweets, guests may say something like “kazu kazu no okashi wa taihen oishikuchodai itashimashita (…).”
    • Guests should then ask about sweets individually, NOT “sore zore no okashi…”.
    • Gyo-no-gyo has five sweets.

Shimai

  • After suikiri, turn back and reopen shop.
    • Turn all the way back to daisu shomen.
    • Take hoyasan, then turn back to imai.
    • Immediately open and place hoyasan to its spot.
    • Open kama lid with your fukusa.
      • (Fukusa is currently to the right of the kensui. Take directly with from imai.)
    • Keeping fukusa on palm, turn back to daisu shomen, then return fukusa to right of kensui.
    • From there, take hishaku from shakutate, then turn back to imai.
    • Place hishaku into kama.
  • Open mizusashi and replenish kama, then koshi fukusa.
    • From imai, open mizusashi lid into the gyo position.
      • 3H as usual, except the lid goes to mizusashi 4:30, tsumami still facing to the right.
    • Take hishaku, replenish kama with one scoop of water.
    • Fukusa koshi.
  • Turn back to kyakutsuki and retrieve the bowl from kantsuki.
  • Sorei, questions etc.
    • O-chawan no go-denrai wa? O-dai wa?
  • Close with the bowl as usual for daitenmoku, but with tatami-kae.
    • Add oyu and kosusugi. Empty, catch the drip with your ring finder, and ichiyo oshimai itashimasu.
    • Add cold water, and do chasentoshi.
      • Chawan stays on the dai.
      • Chasen is 3x age.
      • Left hand stays on the hozuki seam.
    • Empty, catch the drip and wipe with chakin, then tatami-kae. After tatami-kae, leave the chakin in the bowl. Then, place the chasen in the bowl.
  • Wipe chashaku.
    • Take the chashaku, then sou-sabaki, taking from the bottom.
      • The kensui stays as-is.
    • Wipe 3x, then without pom-pom, refold from the bottom and wipe one last time. Immediately place the chashaku onto the bowl (1H), then return your fukusa to your obi as-is.
  • Return chawan+dai to himado-mae (still from imai), then add cold water with yugaeshi.
  • Finish closing hishaku, kama, etc.
    • Turn back to daisu shomen with hishaku, then return to shakutate.
    • Turn back to imai, and close kama (no fukusa).
    • Close hoyasan, leaving out on tatami for now.
    • Close mizusashi (all still from imai).

Haiken

  • After the mizusashi lid is closed, guests asks for karamono no haiken only. See Warigoe.
  • Like always after haiken, touch the futaoki.
    • Take hoyasan, turn to daisu shomen, and return to its home on the ji-ita.
  • Take chaire and kiyome.
    • Momide, take the chaire, then turn all the way to outside the ro.
    • Purify chaire as usual for karamono temae (gyo-sabaki), placing out to kantsuki.
  • After returning the fukusa to your obi, the guest asks for o-chashaku, o-shifuku no haiken.
  • Place out the chashaku and shifuku.
    • Return to daisu shomen, take chashaku, then turn all the way back outside the ro to place chashaku.
    • Turn back to imai (Always take shifuku how you put it down), then turn back outside the ro to place shifuku out.
      • Everything goes to kantsuki, although the shifuku does still overlap the chashaku, leaving a slight separation between {chaire} and {chashaku + shifuku}.
      • Te wo tsuite may be “normal” here, ie no need to go down to shin.
  • Return to daisu shomen, and finish putting away the daisu.
    • Turn back to daisu shomen.
    • Place the chawan / dai onto the bon (which is still biased forward).
    • Return hibashi once the chawan is out of the way.
    • Push the bon back to center.
      • The way I remember this: hibashi needs to get put away. Do the minimum possible to make that happen. THEN move the bon back to its home. (Even though it’s a little silly that you’ll move it back in a moment when you come to take it).
  • Exit with kensui.
    • Shittai from daisu shomen, then pick up the kensui while low and exit.
  • Return, exit with bon and chawan.
    • Return to daisu shomen sitting low, then shikko.
    • Pull the bon forward once from 9:30 and 4:30, then take from the sides.
    • Shittai while holding the bon, then exit.
  • Return, replenish water.
    • Return with the mizutsugi, sitting low.
    • Place the mizutsugi down to daisu-shomen like the usual hira-daisu position.
    • Shikko diagonally to the front of the mizusashi.
      • (I have in my notes that you do not need to go beyond the knee line glenn. So sitting low and scooting up diagonally only needs to bring you to the knee line. This holds for things in general. That said, I think I prefer to be closer for this movement.)
    • Open the lid 2h like in hira-demae and refill as usual.
    • Shittai back to below the knee line (center), then exit with the mizutsugi.
      • (Still backing out! Kensui isn’t back yet.)
  • Return with kensui.
    • Sit low, and place the kensui down to daisu shomen with 2h.
    • Shikko forward.
    • 3h futaoki into kensui, L supporting the side of the kensui once you place the hoyasan in.
    • 2h kensui to its home on the jiita.
    • After kensui is back, move the shakutate back to its original spot. Hands down at beginning and end.
    • Stand and turn directly as in hirademae, then exit.

Guests do haiken, etc. Dougu is returned in kamiza-geza order, not right-left order.

  • Bring a Rikyugata Chuu Natsume back in on return.
    • Carry it in holding 2h, with R hangetsu.
    • When placing on the ten-ita, hold the natsume more from the side, being careful not to touch the ten-ita with your arm.
    • Turn to the haiken dougu.
  • Answer questions
  • To exit:
    • Momide, then take shifuku.
      • Everything here is going to be done with 2h, and kept very close to the original position (ie hovering around the chaire).
    • Place the chaire on the shifuku, so that it’s sitting like Buddha on a zabuton, with L thumb on kata.
    • Staying very close, take the chashaku in R and hold nigiriconde.
    • Hold the right side of the chaire such that the tsuyu is above the head of the chaire (ie a cobra above the head of the Buddha).
    • Once R is in place, L thumb can drop from kata to center.
    • Back at the door, the chashaku goes down as usual, but the chaire and shifuku go down as a pair, with the chaire sitting on a zabuton (shiifuku) on the floor.

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