May 24, 2020
Karamono
On payment, 35 for shikaden. Prefers to be paid in large chunks rather than week-to-week. Ideally cash (maybe ask Itamar if he could do me a favor on that every few months?).
- Next lesson is June 7 at 4pm PST (2pm MST)
- Non-karamono-specific:
- Usuchaki were all called Natsume pre-Itto, regardless of shape
- My hagi chaire shifuku is potentially Satsuma Kanto?
- Juuden things:
- There is a juuden where you wipe the upper right corner of the take daisu and place a chakin there
- There is a juuden where you place chashaku, chakin, chasen on the mizusashi lid just the same as you do in kazari (so if you ask can you do kazari with a tana… why not?)
- __ where you use a karamono chaire then a wamono fabric underneath (called a WAKIN)
- __ where you use a daikai chaire but tie it with the shin musubi (3 knots?)
- __ where you have furo kama in the center, then hoso mizusashi on the left (unrelated to season)
- __ where you have a hitotsuoki mizusashi on the daisu during ro
- For tana hishaku placement, if the part of the tana that the go is resting on is curved, the go faces downward. If it’s straight, it goes upward (helps resolve the question of something like a half-moon tana that is neither round nor square)
- Bowl placement (FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL):
- When closing, the kensui should be behind the knee line by one go, such that when the hishaku is placed on the kensui, the edge of the go is tangent to the knee line
- Futaoki should be placed underneath the fushi of the hishaku
- End of the chashaku (on the chawan) should be 1 sun/2 mei from the go, which is the same as being tangent to the edge of the kinindatami heri
- HOWEVER when karioki (and when doing temae in general), the bowl should be in the middle between your knee line and the shikiita
- Kensui no kata w.r.t. chasen, it should be pretty high up. Like almost a full hand-span (width, not length) from the shoulder of the kensui. And laterally, it should almost be himado.
- Kamae
- Finally I got clarification on what he meant here lol. You should do the full kagamibishaku on the very first one, and the first one only (ie hand is a blade).
- For subsequent kamae, you should just come down and leave your hand in a natural position, ie not go into blade at the end. Gives the first one a bigger punch that way
- Hikibishaku
- By the time your thumb gets wrapped around and back, the hishaku should already be parallel to the wall. Don’t keep moving laterally after your thumb makes its way around.
- Always put the fukusa at least one chuu natsume behind the kensui if you’re going to use it (so that if you forget to koshi it, you don’t fuck yourself up later when you have to pull the kensui)
- Chashaku kiyome
- Try to avoid following the curve of the chashaku (no ski slope). Open the fukusa to elongate the chashaku as long as possible. Likewise, try to hold the chashaku as low as possible to make it long
- Magemono
- Should only be used once. If you use it once, it’s perfectly acceptable to turn it into a keishinuri (???), ie lacquer the interior and use it that way.
- Chashaku gomei for koicha should always be zengo
- If someone is going to step into temae and make you a bowl of tea (as teishu), you should wipe the bowl for them and LEAVE THE CHAKIN IN THE BOWL when you place it back down. Then let them move the chakin onto the kama no futa.
- Karamono things (not temae)
- Dougu
- Doesn’t have to be a magemono mizusashi. Could be a seto hitoeguchi with nuributa as well.
- Doesn’t have to be a motobushi chashaku. That’s the standard, but we don’t do the pull-through. It was only said that it had to be motobushi with Gengensai. So nakabushi is also fine.
- Doesn’t have to be karamono necessarily — could also be a very nice wamono (chokumeibutsu maybe?)
- Generations
- This temae was codified by Gengensai, so things should follow that time period.
- Chashaku — must be Gengensai+
- Chawan — 8, 9, 10 raku is best (10 == tanyu, easy to remember)
- Some families that could have karamono:
- Matsudairake bunrin degozaimasu
- Uenoke *
- Tamurake * (I think)
- Should ideally be a doburo with shinnarigama
- Heishibuta
- The heishibuta (flat nubby on the lid) should always be flipped, whether or not it’s on a karamono chaire
- Not all karamono chaire have heishibuta, and some wamono DO have heishibuta.
- Reason to flip it is because heishibuta is the shape of an upside down shinto offering container (looks kind of like a vase), and flipping it makes the offering container right-side up
- Chaire kiyome
- Wamono chaire should do doubuki at your solar plexus, karamono should be at your navel (and both inside your knee line)
- Honjimae
- The definition of honjimae here is a little odd. Your honjimae is what the setup looks like when you come in with the kensui, ie bowl in karioki and chaire in front of mizusashi. So at the end, your honjimae would also be with the bowl back in karioki, ie centered between the shikiita and your knee line.
- However! Normally when you’re doing haiken, you have the bowl low enough such that the chashaku is tangent to the kinindatami heri. There’s no point in karamono where you pull it though… so what do you do? Very weird!
- The debate ends up being between: do you be consistent with other temae [and put it tangent to the heri] or do be self-consistent with your honjimae [and put it karioki]. No good answer.
- Nagashidate (standing the chashaku up on the lid of the chaire)
- The edge of the chashaku should be rested on the lid, not the flat of the chashaku
- When you pick it up and put it down, you should be pinching the edge of the chashaku (like hishaku), not holding the flat of the chashaku
- Dougu
- Stepping through temae:
- Gyo no te at beginning — it should be just like when you’re taking hibashi from daisu. Both hands go down at the beginning AND the end. Specifically, hands down, open, hands back down, sit up, then take the bowl to temaeza
- Taking fukusa for shin no sabaki at the end (third corner), don’t count. Just be confident and take it. fuck man that’s hard.
- Scooting back, you can do just L - R if you want, doesn’t need to be L - R - L.
- Coming back with kensui, when you place the kensui down, the go should be at least at your knee line, potentially a bit past your knee line. Better to have it a bit more forward than too far back.
- Taking futaoki, you can move the hishaku to follow your body as it turns. That way you can see the futaoki from inside the kensui.
- After dealing with the chawan, when you’re about to put the chakin onto the lid of the mizusashi, you DON’T move the bowl. You normally move the bowl because you have the chaire in front of the bowl and it’s not centered. But it should already be in its spot by this point, so no moving.
- Holding the chaire for tsukuridashi, you should hold with your forefingers and your thumb. It should NOT touch the palm of your hand. Think like how you can hold a tsutsujawan to empty it in the kensui.
- Opening the lid of a magemizusashi:
- Hold at 5 and 7 with both hands
- Bring the lid back around the chaire to your center, meanwhile scoot your left hand up to 9
- Grab with right hand at 11 and place next to the mizusashi
- Big note, when you’re bringing the lid back around the chaire to your center, you can tilt the lid to face the guests a bit so that you’re not flying-saucering the lid, and instead you’re avoiding the chaire in a bit more natural way
- Scooping water is always going in from around, but coming out (from mizusashi to chawan or mizusashi to kama) is more-or-less direct (avoiding kantsuki)
- For all temae (his opinion), if you are talking about the chawan when you receive it back after koicha, stop with so no te and talk while the bowl is in front of you (as opposed to moving around and doing things while talking)
- When you’re placing the chaire out for haiken (remember, hidari mawari), you should do the second turn on the way to the dougu datami. Same as chakin no fuki, the turn kinda pulls the chaire forward
- Second haiken ask is done from kyakutsuki, not from imai
- For haiken dougu positioning, from the original positioning: chaire moves up to kantsuki, chashaku moves over to shikuku, shifuku stays in the same position. So the overall lateral space taken up by the three dougu is the same
- For guest portion:
- The chashaku and shifuku should remain together anytime in the kaori datami (??? the moving tatami). So while guests are bringing dougu back, the order is as follows:
- 2h bring chaire back (no momite)
- Bring back chashaku
- Bring back shifuku and put on chashaku
- Then when you get it back to your place:
- Chaire stays herisoto, chashaku and shifuku stay heriuchi (separated)
- To view:
- For chaire, use kobukusa and place the lid (upside down if heishibuta) on the upper right of the kobukusa (ie kamiza)
- Chashaku and shifuku are like normal
- Returning:
- Same as when you take the dougu to you, placed out back for teishu as you expect (same orientation and positioning, just flipped)
- The chashaku and shifuku should remain together anytime in the kaori datami (??? the moving tatami). So while guests are bringing dougu back, the order is as follows: